With the current administration taking a decidedly unfriendly view toward immigrants, asylum seekers and refugees, it has fallen on the cities and states to develop policies to help undocumented communities. By the city’s own estimate, New York is home to more than 560,000 undocumented immigrants, most of whom work and pay taxes. Many of them hold crucial jobs, like child care and caring for the sick and elderly. And now, they may be eligible for that most valuable of documents, a driver’s license. Our guests and their organizations have both been fighting to make that happen.  They talk about why it’s become such an important talking point in the conversations surrounding undocumented immigrants, and why making that one little hologram card available to everyone can not only make the lives of the undocumented better, it actually can make the city safer.